15/02/2012
Alberto Navarro / Translation by Michael J. O'Donnell
Rogerio Ceni (Parana, Brazil, 22/01/1973) was the guest of honour on Wednesday's training session. The Brazilian is the all-time top scoring goalkeeper with 100 strikes and followed the session closely.
What are you doing in Madrid? Did you come with your friend Kaka?
I wanted to learn how Real Madrid work. This club sets a great example for all other teams in the world and I had a chance to learn about Jose Mourinho’s methods when I injured my shoulder. He and the club’s structure are admirable. It’s been a great chance to learn and enhance my knowledge. Kaka and I have been friends for a long time since our Sao Paulo days. I met him when he was a child over 10 years ago.
What do you think of Mourinho’s methods?
Watching him is pure spectacle. He designs workouts for specific positions, does tactical work… I like how he talks to his men and how close he is to them. I also like the way he handles their relationship with the press. All of this is important to have a good and easy going atmosphere. I think I’ve taken a lot from this which I could use some day if I ever decide to coach. I will take this experience back with me to Brazil. I’ve learned a lot just by watching and listening.
Is he the best coach in the world?
Yes, he is. He’s been in the elite for years, training important sides like Chelsea, Inter Milan and Real Madrid for ten years. He always wins and reaches finals. Judging from what I’ve seen and how he commands the team, he isn’t just one of the best right now, but one of the best in football history.
Many of the players he’s coached say he manages to make them support him to the end. What do you think he has to achieve this?
It must be a real pleasure to work with someone so knowledgeable. It’s a great opportunity for athletes, especially young ones, to follow orders from him and his staff. The closeness he has with his men is obvious, and that’s important.
You’ve also had a chance to talk to the players…
I’ve spent some time with Marcelo and Pepe, whom I met in Brazil, with Kaka, who hasn’t changed and is still a gentleman, with Cristiano Ronaldo… It’s nice to see 20 or 30 players of such quality training together. There is a very nice atmosphere on the squad. I will be just another fan on Saturday and I wish Real Madrid a lot of luck.
You played with Kaka at Sao Paulo. What would you highlight about him?
He’s fantastic both as a player and as a person. You have to be a great person in order to be a great player. I’ve known him since he was 18 years old, when he started training with the first team at Sao Paulo. You could already tell he was different from the rest. He’s always thinking about the goal and he is a vertical player with great vision and speed.
Is he decisive on the pitch?
He always was at Sao Paulo and Milan. Injuries thwarted his progress at Real Madrid, but he still has a lot of time left on his contract and he is gradually improving. I’m sure he’ll play for Brazil again and that he’ll be in the next World Cup. He is much more experienced than when I met him at Sao Paulo. Kaka will always be an important player for Real Madrid and I think he will retire here because both he and the team deserve to be together because of their combined greatness.
You’ve also spoken with Casillas. What would you stand out about him as a goalkeeper?
He isn’t very tall, but his speed and reflexes stand out. He won a World Cup with his country, which makes him even stronger. I had never met him, but he is a great guy with a great personality. He compensates for his height with speed and velocity. He is 30 years old and I told him the best years for a goalkeeper are those between 28 and 32. He is at the peak of his career.
Marcelo may be young, but he is a fixture at Real Madrid and Brazil… He seems to have no limits…
He is a phenomenon. I don’t know why there were times he didn’t play for Brazil, but we do have quality full backs, which makes it hard. He has unanimous national support now. He is a monster, with speed, goal scoring instincts and strength. It’s difficult for one player to combine such quality, speed and strength.
As an expert set piece taker, what do you think of Cristiano Ronaldo’s technique?
His touch on ball is incredible. He positions himself differently from the rest in free-kicks. I don’t know how he does it. He hits it straight on, strong and fast, and the ball changes its trajectory and complicated things for goalkeepers. Very few players manage to do that. Brazilians Marcos Assunçao, who played for Betis, and Juninho Pernambucano, who did so for Olympique Lyonnais, hit it similarly.
How do people regard Real Madrid in Brazil?
They’ve been regarded as one of the three best teams in the world for a very long time. It’s harder each year and now that I know it I explain it in terms of its tradition, history, stadium and fan base. Many people in Brazil prefer the Spanish league or the Champions League to Brasileirao. You see many Real Madrid shirts on the streets. Even Sao Paulo fans wear the shirt when they watch their team train. It’s an example to learn from.
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